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AntiBBRae Stamp by neopuff AntiBBRae Stamp by neopuff
I've always hated this ship - and it has nothing to do with my preferred ships. I just can't stand it.

This stamp turned out good looking though ;D

The few who may want to use this, knock yourselves out ;D

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[edit 5/1/13]

I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE FUN FACT FOR ALL YOU BBRAE FANS WHO WANNA SAY, "theyre canon in the comics so they were gonna be canon in the show!". Because BOY are you misinformed or what.

First of all, Teen Titans is VERY LOOSELY based off the comics. Very loosely. The characters personalities and designs are totally different and their stories are different and everything is different.

Teen Titans (the animated series) is a show based off of THE NEW TEEN TITANS, the Teen Titans comics from the early 1980s to the late 1990s. These comics eventually ended, and other Teen Titans comics were started and continued. But the animated series is only based off of that first few decade-run.

Beast Boy and Raven were not in a romantic relationship during this time - actually, they didn't fight, either. They spoke the least of any of the Titans. Their very few interactions are pretty dull.

When you see comic book images of Beast Boy and Raven kissing, this is from issues created only after 2004. BBRae only exists in the comics because it was popular in the TV series. Prior to the TV show existing, it was never planned, and never publicly considered.

The producers of Teen Titans (the animated series) stated to fans, on multiple occasions, that BBRae was not a plan for the show and never would be. Because the show is based off of THE NEW TEEN TITANS, and not any of the newer comic series, and therefore making BBRae happen would be a ridiculous jump from the canon material. And yes, most of Teen Titans (the animated series) is not all that similar to the source material, but character relationships are relatively spot on. The fact that the show adds any significant interaction between Beast Boy and Raven is, honestly, enough of a change.

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Beep. Okay. Please, please do not leave a comment that says anything along the lines of, "I love BBRae but you're entitled to your own opinion! Joy to all and peace on Earth!" It's more annoying than a flame, I can't even talk back to you without feeling like a douche. So just leave if you like or love BBRae. You have no reason to have clicked on this stamp in the first place.

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[edit 9/13/11]

God, lately I've just had the urge to complain about BBRae. Naturally this would be the best place to do so.

I'd like to clarify that this stamp represents a dislike towards BBRae in the ANIMATED TV SERIES. The characters, although names, looks, and backgrounds are meant to be the same, are not the same characters. They have different interactions, looks, and personalities.

I just want to rant about one thing for BBRae that bothers the shit out of me: when people claim Raven hated Terra out of jealousy for her and Beast Boy's relationship.

No. Just, GOD no. That's murder to a fantastic character's personality! Saying Raven is immature and pathetic enough to become suspicious of Terra's true intentions towards the Titans because Beast Boy actually showed a canon romantic interest in the blonde is a disgrace to her character!

Raven was not, in any way, shape, or form, ever romantically interested in Beast Boy in the animated series. Terra, however, was. And Beast Boy and Terra had a mutual relationship going, which is why most [notice how I say most, but not all] BBRae fans hate Terra. Because they're jealous, not because Raven's jealous :P

Now, obviously BBRae had its' moments throughout the series. Every ship had its' moments, although RobStar, BBTerra, and RobRae got the biggest ones [ie, RobStar is canon, BBTerra is part-canon, and RobRae had a huge chunk of season 4].

Let's see...the first one was in Nevermore, I believe. That was a good opener for a friendship, where Beast Boy and Cyborg [I hate that I have to stress that part] get to learn that Raven's mind is hella scary. Very nice. Very friendshippy. Oh, did I mention he starts acting like a dick to her and she starts acting like a bitch to him not long afterwards? They're on one hell of a roller coaster ride. Immediately after that, Starfire gets to learn about Raven. Why doesn't Robin get an episode with Raven first season? Y'know, I never actually noticed that until now. Whatever.

Then uh...okay, I'll look at a list of episodes. Okay, they really didn't get much until Terra showed up. When Terra first arrived, although Beast Boy fell head-over-heels, Raven showed no interest in her whatsoever. Obviously she didn't distrust the girl until Terra actually hooks up with Slade. So was she jealous? Obviously not.

Then, wow, they get nothing until Spellbound? Nothing I can remember anyway. Spellbound, although obviously more BBRae implied than CyRae, was still Raven interacting with the boys of the team excluding Robin. It's actually kind of unfortunate that the writers didn't do more with Raven-Beast Boy and Raven-Cyborg friendships. In this episode, Beast Boy learns that he's a dick to Raven and tries to respect her more, where Raven learns that Beast Boy is trying to be less of a dick to her. That hug, that hug! That's exactly what this stamp is. Beast Boy is so shocked by the sudden contact that he blushes. Ohmygosh, does that totally mean he has a crush on her? No it doesn't. But it gives nice footage for AMVs. Which BBRae AMVs desperately need, since most of the time Beast Boy and Raven interaction does not look even remotely romantic or even friendly.

And then comes the only episode that was singularly Raven-Beast Boy relationship, rather than Raven-BB-Cyborg. "The Beast Within" is a great episode for Beast Boy's character [especially for someone like me, who unfortunately didn't watch season 5]. So this episode reveals that Beast Boy cares about Raven and hates the idea of putting her in a coma! Very nice. He also doesn't want Adonis to rape/kidnap her or whatever. That's good. I disliked how weak Raven was in this episode, since she's easily the strongest of the Titans, but it fit for the story line. Although the conflict was technically between Beast Boy and Raven, this was easily a more internal conflict for Beast Boy, and it should've been done closer to Season 5 where they go more into BB "becoming a man".

Anyhow, this is way too long. But a rant is a rant, I suppose. If you love BBRae and are heavily offended by what I've written or are laughing your butt off at it, then good for you. I don't particularly want to hear it, but knock yourself out.

I forgot to add this: To sum up my hatred for BBRae [this may sound different than my rant if you've read both], their relationship didn't change at all over the course of the series. Their interactions in "Trouble in Tokyo" and "Divide and Conquer" are exactly the same: Beast Boy is stupid, Raven is a bitch to him. Yeah, totally compatible. Even two of their best episodes, "Nevermore" and "Spellbound", are centered around the same issue: Beast Boy doesn't understand Raven, then he learns to understand her better. But apparently not well enough if they had to go through the same shit AGAIN. How many times would they have to go through another "you're creepy!" "i hate you" "oh sorry" before their relationship actually delves into something?

:icontealdeerplz: Beast Boy and Raven are incompatible and a really boring couple.
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:iconhoneybeegirl94:
HoneyBeeGirl94 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015
I agree. They're too much of the opposites and I don't like opposites attract kind of pairings. It's boring, cliche, predictable and painful forced to happen. Plus, I prefer Raven being single and independent without in a relationship, other then platonic. I feel more connected to her as a character. 

Though, I'll give credit to the ship, because it's portrayed way more tolerable then Wally x Kuki in KND. 
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LittleBearCub25 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015  New member
How dare you. BBxRae is a work of art. TerraxBB is awful. I HATE THIS. Do you know how insulting it is to BBxRae fans? Ass.
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HoneyBeeGirl94 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015
Are you that insulted? 
You're pretty much of an pitiful shipper from what I see.
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LittleBearCub25 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  New member
That is rude. I'm ignoring you now.
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HoneyBeeGirl94 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015
Whatever. 
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neopuff Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
hahahahahaa
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:iconlittlebearcub25:
LittleBearCub25 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  New member
Wut. I'm ignoring you too you know.
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neopuff Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
hahahahahaa
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:iconravenismywaifu:
RavenIsMyWaifu Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
FINALLY. I thought I was the only one on the PLANET who hated this ship.
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TyLuko4life Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014
You're not.  I hate BBRae, too.
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TeentitansTerra Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015  Student Photographer
Make it 3.
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lol ima favorite this for no reason, probably cause I can't find anything against the ship xD
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Shadowsawesome88 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I hate this pairing so much.
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a-ckles-sexual Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
teen titan raven confirmed for aro, said my tumblr url
i just think raven isnt set for a romantic relationship, thank you for this stamp
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neopuff Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i can't see raven as anything but asexual tbh, like in the comics she is literally *afraid* of having sex. totally aroace.
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Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
So what do you think of all the comments I have left all over the place?
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:iconneopuff:
neopuff Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i do not, for the most part. the two i've seen are idiotic so i imagine the rest are the same.
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TotalFreakZoid Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed...

To be honest? I don't know why people ship this couple. I remember that episode where Beast Boy is asking Raven if she wants a Tofu Dog and she respectfully refuses... and they go on with their life. I don't think they compliment each other very well in a way they wouldn't be arguing with each other constantly. I mean... they respect each other as friends...
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Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
You should rewatch the episodes, because if your argument that they would not argue a lot and that they only respect each other as friends is based on that one exchange, then you sir are missing a lot of information and misread that situation.

Infact you don't need to watch all of the episodes just watch the episode Nevermore, Spellbound, The Beast Within and Betrayal, and you shall see what the rest of us see.
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TotalFreakZoid Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Um, why was this directed towards me? If you should be talking to anyone you should be talking to the one who created the stamp. I really could care less who is shipped with who.

To be honest, I'm a multishipper and I like to see the coin from both sides. I don't think I need to be called out to watch episodes that involve Raven and Beast Boy that have them in a intimate relationship.

No, I haven't watched all the way to the end but from what I've heard; Robin and Star are the only canon couple... not Raven and Beast Boy. But if I'm wrong then fine, I really don't care. 
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eileen6somers Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Oh and speaking of canon GUESS WHATS NOT!!!
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Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
THANK YOU!!! finally someone says it, robin and Raven have never been together in anything, so before all of you robrae lovers out there star acting like they're a married couple, remember that there has never been any thing there, and that robin is currently doing the kids cartoon version of banging starfire. 

P.S. Sorry for all of you starbb's out there this comment was not meant for you.
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supahkillargurl Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What does RobRae have to do with BBRae? Where did you two even get the idea of comparing RobRae to BBRae? Yes, the creator likes the couples, but that is completely irrelevant. This stamp is made for all non-BBRae shippers in GENERAL. Not everyone who dislikes BBRae like RobRae. In fact, I know plenty of people who LOATHE both of those couples.

Honestly, some people.
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eileen6somers Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I really don't care that it's not canon. I still ship BBrae. Like I still ship zutara, even though it's most definitely not canon.
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KaiLover89 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Just saw your stamp and would like to add my two cents.

While I don't hate the ship so much as merely disagree with it, what I DO hate is its MASSIVE OVERPOPULARITY.

I'm a big fan of both characters and their love/hate, brother/sister relationship but because of all the crazy shippers it's almost impossible to find any good fanworks based on them that is NOT romantic.
All I want is to read a good fanfic focusing on their PLATONIC  bond. I normally respect other people's shipping tastes but it's so annoying having to wade through all the romance stuff in order to find something I like. Now that it's canon in the new TTGo show, it's going to be even more difficult to find platonic Beast boy and Raven.*sigh*
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KaiserLuigiderEhrbar Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
YES!!! I have been looking for this stamp, I hate this paring with a hot fiery passion, Beast Boy is a comic slacking fool who is not worth to look at Raven much less date her!
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LittleBearCub25 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  New member
IKR! I am sorta' a BBxRae shipper.... But BB is L-A-Z-Y. While Raven on the other hand is A-W-E-S-O-M-E!
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Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
Something tells me you're not a really social guy.
Just an observation, you seem to hate Beast Boy because he is a social, outgoing, funny and nice guy, and usually people tend to hate to which they are not. So tell me  am I close.
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KaiserLuigiderEhrbar Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
No not really, he isn't that funny he is mostly immature, he is far from a nice guy, he is a womanizer and a douche. Plus what you are describing is envy, and I envy no one.
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Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
So what you're saying is you are like him? 
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supahkillargurl Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Fail insult is fail.
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Captainpiratemonkey Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2014
OMG YES! THANK YOU! I'VE BEEN SEARCIHNG FOR LIKE 2 HOURS FOR SOMETHING ANTI RAVEN X BEASTBOY
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:iconlouptiloup:
Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
Why?
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Captainpiratemonkey Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014
because beast boy x raven pisses me off so much
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:iconlouptiloup:
Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014
Why?
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Captainpiratemonkey Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014
this journal explains it
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DragonessKunoichi Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014  Student Artist
I really agre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't ship BBRAE for no reason, they are............weird.
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spacialcreek Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014
Beast Boy/Raven "boring couple"? Sweetheart, if any couple is boring, then that's Robin and Raven, since they're basically the same person. It's like shipping two siblings.

The whole rant that you did there basically makes me ship the thing. It's a love/hate relationship, which adds complexity and angst to the ship. 
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eileen6somers Featured By Owner Edited Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Ikr?😳
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neopuff Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"basically the same person" "like shipping two siblings" so you think siblings act the same?? people who act similarly are automatically related??? that's one fucked up way of thinking, wow.

i'm glad my rant makes you love the ship more!! cuz if you really love it, you should love it for all its disgusting flaws as well as whatever strange, disturbing appeal you see in it. i'm very glad you can see past the unhealthiness and find everything about them ~*~cute~*~ instead.
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eileen6somers Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
TELL ME ONE THING SICK ABOUT BBRAE THAT ISNT SICK IN ANY OTHER SHIPS. EVER HEARD OF 'OPPOSITES ATTRACT!!>:(
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Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
There has been no reply yet because you are right and she does not wish to tell you for fear of bringing more shame to her name. :()
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supahkillargurl Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How the fuck is she right? Anyone who thinks complete opposites could tolerate being a couple has a screw loose.
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LittleBearCub25 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  New member
Oh shut it! People love "Opposites Attraction" And if you don't, and you've just come to argue, Why are you even replying to these people? And do not say the F-word. Learn some manners, SHEESH! G4 Firefly (Unamused) Plz 
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supahkillargurl Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, wow. This comment gave me a shitload of laughs. Thanks for making my day! Laugh LOL 

Anyway, let's take a looksy through your argument, shall we?

Oh shut it!: Great way to tell start it off. Unfortunately, I withhold the right to freely express my opinion however I please, so I'm afraid I will say whatever I fucking (Whoops! I used the F-word again!) please.

People love "Opposites Attraction": Hon, I think the term is opposites attract, firstly. Second of all, that is a general assumption, and I don't know who these "people" are, in case you mean the entire global population. You are blatantly assuming that EVERYONE LOVES pairing involving polar opposite characters, in which case, you are incredibly wrong.

And if you don't, and you've just come to argue, Why are you even replying to these people?: Because the stupidity of the internet is amusing. Why are you replying to my comment?

And do not say the F-word. Learn some manners, SHEESH!: This one made my laugh the hardest. How fucking old are you? Eight? Because with only looking at your username and your choice of language ("the F-word"), it certainly points to that. Sorry, sweetie, but life isn't quite like the cavity-inducing, sugar-sweet, spoon-fed, all-wrapped-up-in-a-bow warped delusion that your parents make it out to be where only big, bad monsters say fuck. This is the internet, with "grown-up people", who can talk however they want to. So, no, I will not "Learn some manners, SHEESH!". Go back to listening to Taylor Swift and watching Dora the Explorer, little girl. You obviously aren't quite ready for the real world.
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LittleBearCub25 Featured By Owner 5 days ago  New member
Excuse me, But that is the rudest thing anyone has ever said to me. SO FUCK OFF! I can share my opinions However I fucking please! And second, I'M FUCKING 11! GET A FUCKING LIFE! And excuse me, I have been in the real world! I have great friends, and a loving family, Things you don't deserve! And I reply to these people so that they learn some manners! And second, I'm a FUCKING vegetarian! I don't eat candy! No I'm not saying EVERYONE loves it! Some people do and I can live with that! But obviously you can't! I chose my username 'Cause I think bears are interesting creatures! This argument is over. And you know what, You really, REALLY, hurt my feelings! Unlike you, I actually HAVE feelings! And P.S. I'm not THREE! I actually watch Teenage shows, but YOU seem to watch stuff like this: Kitty Jessica "Ooo, I love rainbows and ponies and buckets of SHIT!"
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Louptiloup Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014
Uhm, the question was, name one thing that is disgusting, it didn't make mention of opposites, doiye????
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supahkillargurl Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, and I see that you have neglected to reply to my comment as you were berating Neopuff for. Don't want to make yourself look more of an ignorant prick than you already have, no?
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supahkillargurl Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"TELL ME ONE THING SICK ABOUT BBRAE THAT ISNT SICK IN ANY OTHER SHIPS. EVER HEARD OF 'OPPOSITES ATTRACT!!>:( (Sad)"

How did she not mention opposites?
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spacialcreek Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014
"Disturbing appeal"? "Disgusting flaws"?

If that was the case, then why so many people love the ship? In fact, Beast Boy/Raven is even more popular than Robin/Starfire, which is a canon couple.

 I don't love it because it's cute or because they look good together. I ship it because of the many faces and sides this ship has.

It's a love/hate ship, composed of two characters that are almost polar opposites, characters who care about each other in spite of their differences and in spite of the dissensions they had in the past.

Beast Boy and Raven complete each other, he is the light to her darkness, he brings joy and color in her life, she brings stability and equilibrium in his.  They balance each other more than any other two characters.

Not to mention that their misunderstandings and quarells make the ship much more interesting than any other ship (hell, the writers themselves said they intentionally wrote Beast Boy and Raven as a "married couple"). 

Robin and Raven were supposed to come off as brother and sister, because of the many similarities they share. When Raven was little in "The End" trilogy, she turned to Robin for help, as a child would turn towards her older sibling for support.

The writers clearly stated they wrote all the titans as "brothers and sisters" (with the exception of Robin and Starfire, of course, which is a canon couple and  Beast Boy and Raven, whose relationship was based of that of a "married couple", as David Slack, the Teen Titans' head writer clearly stated). 
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