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AntiBBRae Stamp by neopuff AntiBBRae Stamp by neopuff
I've always hated this ship - and it has nothing to do with my preferred ships. I just can't stand it.

This stamp turned out good looking though ;D

The few who may want to use this, knock yourselves out ;D

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[edit 5/1/13]

I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE FUN FACT FOR ALL YOU BBRAE FANS WHO WANNA SAY, "theyre canon in the comics so they were gonna be canon in the show!". Because BOY are you misinformed or what.

First of all, Teen Titans is VERY LOOSELY based off the comics. Very loosely. The characters personalities and designs are totally different and their stories are different and everything is different.

Teen Titans (the animated series) is a show based off of THE NEW TEEN TITANS, the Teen Titans comics from the early 1980s to the late 1990s. These comics eventually ended, and other Teen Titans comics were started and continued. But the animated series is only based off of that first few decade-run.

Beast Boy and Raven were not in a romantic relationship during this time - actually, they didn't fight, either. They spoke the least of any of the Titans. Their very few interactions are pretty dull.

When you see comic book images of Beast Boy and Raven kissing, this is from issues created only after 2004. BBRae only exists in the comics because it was popular in the TV series. Prior to the TV show existing, it was never planned, and never publicly considered.

The producers of Teen Titans (the animated series) stated to fans, on multiple occasions, that BBRae was not a plan for the show and never would be. Because the show is based off of THE NEW TEEN TITANS, and not any of the newer comic series, and therefore making BBRae happen would be a ridiculous jump from the canon material. And yes, most of Teen Titans (the animated series) is not all that similar to the source material, but character relationships are relatively spot on. The fact that the show adds any significant interaction between Beast Boy and Raven is, honestly, enough of a change.

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Beep. Okay. Please, please do not leave a comment that says anything along the lines of, "I love BBRae but you're entitled to your own opinion! Joy to all and peace on Earth!" It's more annoying than a flame, I can't even talk back to you without feeling like a douche. So just leave if you like or love BBRae. You have no reason to have clicked on this stamp in the first place.

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[edit 9/13/11]

God, lately I've just had the urge to complain about BBRae. Naturally this would be the best place to do so.

I'd like to clarify that this stamp represents a dislike towards BBRae in the ANIMATED TV SERIES. The characters, although names, looks, and backgrounds are meant to be the same, are not the same characters. They have different interactions, looks, and personalities.

I just want to rant about one thing for BBRae that bothers the shit out of me: when people claim Raven hated Terra out of jealousy for her and Beast Boy's relationship.

No. Just, GOD no. That's murder to a fantastic character's personality! Saying Raven is immature and pathetic enough to become suspicious of Terra's true intentions towards the Titans because Beast Boy actually showed a canon romantic interest in the blonde is a disgrace to her character!

Raven was not, in any way, shape, or form, ever romantically interested in Beast Boy in the animated series. Terra, however, was. And Beast Boy and Terra had a mutual relationship going, which is why most [notice how I say most, but not all] BBRae fans hate Terra. Because they're jealous, not because Raven's jealous :P

Now, obviously BBRae had its' moments throughout the series. Every ship had its' moments, although RobStar, BBTerra, and RobRae got the biggest ones [ie, RobStar is canon, BBTerra is part-canon, and RobRae had a huge chunk of season 4].

Let's see...the first one was in Nevermore, I believe. That was a good opener for a friendship, where Beast Boy and Cyborg [I hate that I have to stress that part] get to learn that Raven's mind is hella scary. Very nice. Very friendshippy. Oh, did I mention he starts acting like a dick to her and she starts acting like a bitch to him not long afterwards? They're on one hell of a roller coaster ride. Immediately after that, Starfire gets to learn about Raven. Why doesn't Robin get an episode with Raven first season? Y'know, I never actually noticed that until now. Whatever.

Then uh...okay, I'll look at a list of episodes. Okay, they really didn't get much until Terra showed up. When Terra first arrived, although Beast Boy fell head-over-heels, Raven showed no interest in her whatsoever. Obviously she didn't distrust the girl until Terra actually hooks up with Slade. So was she jealous? Obviously not.

Then, wow, they get nothing until Spellbound? Nothing I can remember anyway. Spellbound, although obviously more BBRae implied than CyRae, was still Raven interacting with the boys of the team excluding Robin. It's actually kind of unfortunate that the writers didn't do more with Raven-Beast Boy and Raven-Cyborg friendships. In this episode, Beast Boy learns that he's a dick to Raven and tries to respect her more, where Raven learns that Beast Boy is trying to be less of a dick to her. That hug, that hug! That's exactly what this stamp is. Beast Boy is so shocked by the sudden contact that he blushes. Ohmygosh, does that totally mean he has a crush on her? No it doesn't. But it gives nice footage for AMVs. Which BBRae AMVs desperately need, since most of the time Beast Boy and Raven interaction does not look even remotely romantic or even friendly.

And then comes the only episode that was singularly Raven-Beast Boy relationship, rather than Raven-BB-Cyborg. "The Beast Within" is a great episode for Beast Boy's character [especially for someone like me, who unfortunately didn't watch season 5]. So this episode reveals that Beast Boy cares about Raven and hates the idea of putting her in a coma! Very nice. He also doesn't want Adonis to rape/kidnap her or whatever. That's good. I disliked how weak Raven was in this episode, since she's easily the strongest of the Titans, but it fit for the story line. Although the conflict was technically between Beast Boy and Raven, this was easily a more internal conflict for Beast Boy, and it should've been done closer to Season 5 where they go more into BB "becoming a man".

Anyhow, this is way too long. But a rant is a rant, I suppose. If you love BBRae and are heavily offended by what I've written or are laughing your butt off at it, then good for you. I don't particularly want to hear it, but knock yourself out.

I forgot to add this: To sum up my hatred for BBRae [this may sound different than my rant if you've read both], their relationship didn't change at all over the course of the series. Their interactions in "Trouble in Tokyo" and "Divide and Conquer" are exactly the same: Beast Boy is stupid, Raven is a bitch to him. Yeah, totally compatible. Even two of their best episodes, "Nevermore" and "Spellbound", are centered around the same issue: Beast Boy doesn't understand Raven, then he learns to understand her better. But apparently not well enough if they had to go through the same shit AGAIN. How many times would they have to go through another "you're creepy!" "i hate you" "oh sorry" before their relationship actually delves into something?

:icontealdeerplz: Beast Boy and Raven are incompatible and a really boring couple.
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darkcandlelight Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2016  New Deviant Hobbyist General Artist
Even though I like BBRae, I'm still going to favorite this.

Why? Because, 1) I like reading good rants (especially from the perspective of an anti-shipper), and 2) I'm just really sick of most of their shippers. They're so egotistical and obnoxious and put too much hate on BBTerra. They try all they can to "prove" that BBRae was canon in the original series. (Guess what? It never was! In the comics [after 2004, I must stress], yes. But never in the TV series, or at least during the canon timeline. Outside of it, feel free to interpret their relationship however you want. Just don't say they were canon during the show.) And worst of all, TTG hates Terra too. They just kick her around like she's a pile of dirt.

I was never really a fan of BBTerra, but the hate it gets, especially from BBRae fans, SICKENS me. It's simply disgusting and nasty and the ship doesn't deserve to be treated that way.
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PitchWitch Featured By Owner Edited Jul 14, 2016
agdhjgsajf i'm looking at my comment on this from 3 years ago and i feel the need to go back in time and slap myself in the face.
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neopuff Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
i went thru to find it LMAO man...the good ol days
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PitchWitch Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2016
i feel bad that you have to deal w these kind of people. and i cant believe i used to BE one of those people.
sorry man
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neopuff Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
its totally fine lmao you get used to it
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PessimismJester Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
after all this time a stamp that speaks to me
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neopuff Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
thats what im here for
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NeonBlobfish Featured By Owner Edited Jan 3, 2016
After awhile, I just came to this conclusion: I have the exact same stance as neopuff. BBxRae is corrosive and needs to go away. No offense to BBxRae fans, but if Raven wasn't such an overrated character, I'd probably like that ship more. Seriously, Raven isn't as deep as people think she is.

Sorry, neopuff. I know you like Raven, so I'm sorry I was too blunt or rude.
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Twisted-Shipper Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2015
I don't think Raven was "weak" in the beast within. She was taken by surprise and most likely tried defending herself at first instead of fighting back, thinking the monster who attacked her was beast boy. I suspect she also held back when and if she did counterattack, making it easier for him to overtake her. Plus, Adonis had experience form their previous battle, so he must have had the upper hand. :B
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NeonBlobfish Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2015
I agree with this completely.
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robraeteentitans Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2015
I'll be honest, I don't really like BbRae, but RobRae is my FAVORITE shipping! (no judging XD)
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NeonBlobfish Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2015
I'm more of a BBTerra fan myself, but I understand what makes RobRae appealing.
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sugilita Featured By Owner Edited Sep 16, 2015
OMG that user with who you were arguing sure is persistent. :iconfluttershyohjoyplz:
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NeonBlobfish Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015
No kidding.
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 17, 2015   Writer
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neopuff Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah, sorry, ive actually *read* the comics, i dont need to watch a youtube summary.

terra only betrayed beast boy in one of her continuities, her first one. 

and the main writers for the cartoon didnt ship bbrae, they mocked bbrae and robrae shippers in interviews! 
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 18, 2015   Writer
What websites have you seen?   While its true I did not read the comics that does not mean I did not do my research looking through websites and watching things to keep me from being ignorant it will be difficult to track down all one hundred of the original comics when That new 52 abomination is flooding the shelf. 


And you know sometimes even writers for big Tv shows like to Troll fans and joke around if they revealed too much no one would want to watch it, you are just looking for a exuse to hate something because, you hate it  that is ridiculous. If you truly read the comics then I do not understand why hate you hate these two together. 

I would understand if you only went by the cartoon.  I just looked up in many websites s that disagree with you about the mocking of Beast boy and Raven nearly every website agreed with my points. " They meant to write Best Boy and Raven as a old married couple, they have a love-hate relationship and get on each other nerves because of their conflicting personalities but they do in fact love each other and care about each other deeply". 

in fact EVERY website I went to said that they did in fact hint at Beastboy/Raven and Robin/Starfire and Yes There was BB/ Terra but each website said Past love interest. Meaning that Beastboy got over Terra somehow. 

So, I don't understand your reasoning. I respect that you do not like them, but, you have not given me a legitimate case you just been ranting to me about how you don't like them. And I understand your love for Terra 

I guess you grew tired of Rapid BB/Rae fans mocking Terra but, I'm not like that in fact I loved Terra so much I modeled one of my characters after her in one of my stories just a tiny hints though only fans of the comic and cartoon  would notice. 
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neopuff Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
them being canon in the comics does not make them well written or interesting or healthy. there were scenes of beast boy stalking raven, the writers de-aged her and made her sexier specifically so the relationship would be more appealing to readers, and they dated and broke up dozens of times over the course of their relationship. it wasn't cute or fun to read it was annoying.

if the website said "past love interest" then it sounds like you went to the teen titans wikia, which, fyi, is written by mostly bbrae fans. that site has been completely bias since it started up hahahaha.

but in general, i dont have to give you any reasoning. i'm not interested in making you dislike bbrae. it's a shitty pairing and i hate it, but this stamp isnt here to convince people to hate it. do what you want, dude.

here's the quote, btw:
BW: Have you seen the fans that are in favor of a Raven/Beast Boy romantic pairing?

David:
 I’m fascinated by the ‘shippers.’ Utterly fascinated by that. They will take the tiniest clue – the tiniest smile between two characters – and see that as evidence for something. Maybe we intended it, maybe we didn’t. Some of out storyboard artists like to put those moments in there. One of our coordinators – Eric Cookmeyer – was convinced there should be a relationship between Cyborg and Raven – because there was a scene in DATE WITH DESTINY where Raven lifts Cyborg up on a platform of energy and looks down at her and says, “Thanks.” After CAR TROUBLE, that was proof positive [to him] that a romance was in the works. The relationships that happen are ultimately up to the Titans. The characters will ultimately tell us where they want to go. But we’re watching them closely and listening to them carefully. And it’s tremendous fun to watch the fans look for that stuff.
Glen always laughs at that stuff. I mean, they’re friends. Just because they had a nice conversation and shared something emotional doesn’t mean they’re in love or anything. [laughs] I think a lot more is inferred by the audience than is necessarily implied by the creators. But it’s all a lot of fun.
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2015   Writer
Okay thanks for info

I see your point having a unable relationship go on and off can be irrating I suppose.

But I think Raven was scared by her own feelings after all she taught Not to feel.

Ha I guess but I personally think it's not paring I believe they have a interesting dynamic love is not without problems.

But the very fact they want it to work and want to go back to each other proves it as well.

I only said you did not give proof of your hate because you seemed to believe I did not have knowledge of the comics.

While see the Point of the interview comments I think that I like them as both firends and lovers.

I do not like it when people use Raven's behavior towards Beastboy as a exuse.

And do not get me wrong I'm not in a way trying to get on your bad side or anything I'm just a naturally curious person.

Because I hate it when people do not get when I don't like something as well thanks for talking to me.

Without directly insulting me or calling names you will not believe the amount of trolls I have to deal with.

But as a aspiring writter you have to see both sides the a posing and for sides.

It is very interesting to see what kind of parings people like or do not like

I do not discrimate I see a robin/Raven picture or fanfic and it's good instant fave

Cyborg and raven huh that would actually be interesting but I'm not sure I could see it.
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2015   Writer
They were together in the orginal comics and there was a A lot of epsiodes forshadowing their almost relationship "NeverMore" Beast Within and Spellbound. 

I understand and respect that you do not like BBand Rae but, it is a cannon Paring BBRae4lyfe is right about it being more cannon than BB Terra because in the orginal comics Terra had basically used Beastboy up until the point where he could not stand her. 

But the writers of the cartoon thought that making Terra sweet and innocent would be better. But, in the comics Terra treated Beastboy worse then Raven ever did. 

which is why I hate BB Terra  and Like RObstar and BB Rae
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neopuff Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
there werent together in the original comics :) you clearly havent read them, they got together in the comics around 2006, which is over 20 years after they were introduced.

beast boy and raven were together in one comic continuity for a few years, beast boy and terra have been together three separate times in three different comic continuities. which one is "more" canon? you clearly havent read any of the comics so saying you hate bbterra because of how she treated him in the comics is just a stupid excuse, just say you hate female characters that are abused and manipulated by older men, cuz that's how terra haters feel deep down!

"a lot of episodes foreshadowing their almost relationship" fun fact they were never going to be romantic in the show! it was never a plan. there are interviews with writers talking about how "silly" fandom is for making bb/rae into a huge thing in the show. sometimes a boy and a girl interact and have trouble and makeup as friends without there being any romance :)
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015   Writer
I did not say I hate BB Terra I was just bringing up the fact that Beast boy and Raven were together and yeah there were Three Terra stories but each in every one she betrayed beast boy.

I do not hate Terra I actually like her alot but I do not like her Beast boy because she keeps hurting his feelings and she even told him to go away in the last episode of the cartoon. 

I do not hate female characters in fact I'm a female writer that writes about Female heroes and I feel for Terra but the sexual relationship she had with Slade was gross. 

And actually the writers of the show did infact support BB/Rae and Robstar and had incorporated chapters from the comic even if some of it was not very accurate to add their own flare to them as well. 

I know Robin, Star, Cyborg and Beast boy and Raven came later and that There was more to the team that did not get added like Wonder girl and those Twins that I forgot the the names of. 

Truthfully I just like Beast boy and Raven romantic or not. They are more interesting together to me. 
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BBRae4lyfe Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015
Sorry to break it to you, But BBRae is cannon. More cannon then BbTerra, and RobRae. And don't get me started on BBStar. Ugh!!
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TyLuko4life Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015
Um, no.  In the 2003 series, BBRae was never canon.  If you want to ship it, go ahead, but neither Beast Boy nor Raven were even interested in each other.  Terra and Beast Boy were, however.
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2015   Writer
Raven and Beastboy were together in the orginal comics and Beast boy had dated Terra but, in the oringal comics she was a a cruel merceless villian that used Beastboy so much he could not stand her.

Terra had used Beastboy way more then Raven. The writters wanted to change her story to make her sweet and kind and inoccent so that the reveal of her working for slade would be more shocking. 
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TyLuko4life Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2015
I am aware of what happened in the comics.  The comics does not equal the cartoon.  The characters are entirely different people.  And no, they didn't change Terra to 'make it more shocking'.  Everyone knew Terra was going to betray the team because of how well the Judas Contract storyline is known.  In the comics, Terra was pretty much a waste of a character--she was a one-note psycho who was 'evil for no reason'.  In the cartoon, Terra was a tragic, flawed, three-dimensional anti-hero.  In other words, she was an actual character.  

My hatred of BBRae actually has nothing to do with my preferred ships; I multi-ship all the time.  I refuse to endorse BBRae, however, is because in the cartoon, Raven constantly smacks and insults him, and Beast Boy constantly invades her boundaries (him ignoring her requests to leave her alone is so disrespectful to her) and he does needlessly insult her.  Beast Boy also legitimately hurts Raven's feelings several times. They never work out their issues and their relationship never goes anywhere.  They have to relearn the same lesson about understanding each other better, but a few episodes later, they're right back where they started.  Their relationship is extremely toxic, and they would make each other miserable.
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015   Writer
I do not know about toxic but, Love is not just about getting along with each other all the time, besides they are roommates its natural for them to get on each others nerves and while I agree that Beast boy was invading her space it was mostly comic relief the cartoon was very anime influenced in style and in the way they told stories. 

And in anime it is normal specially in 90s and- 00s cartoons like Teen titans for the love interest to hit the guy for doing something idiotic or stupid and we both know that Beast boy can do some pretty idiotic things. Its for comedy relief.

Beast boy did so because he knew that Raven was lonely and needed someone to talk to, he refused to let Raven be alone and everyone sorta pushed Raven from time to time everything annoys Raven. Its hard to Raven to feel like alone love I think the reason she acted the way she did is because she was confused as to why Beast boy irritated her so much. 

The reason why I like BBrae so much is Beast boy can get her to feel emotions like happiness,anger and sadness. If Robin or the others tried to all she would do is act all calm and it would not even phase her.

But, the reason Beast boy effects her so much is for some reason she does care what Beast boy things about her and that is why she is annoyed with him because he is the only one besides her father and the criminals who can get under her skin and see Raven as she is a girl desperate to feel and connect. 

Raven has a difficult wall to push through. Beast boy might have pushed her but she pushed him as well, Raven had been known to say hurtful things to beast boy too Mostly to protect him from getting to close to her. Because of Trigon and her powers. 

The reason why they fought all the time is because they legitimately cared for each other, and did not want each other to get hurt. A relationship is never perfect. 

The reason why they went back to the way they started is because its their own way of showing how they understand each other in a way that Terra never could. The reason why they never changed is because they both like each other they way they are. 

Yeah sometimes my family and friends get on my nerves and we fight but, I would never change a single thing about them. Love is no different. 

I will say one thing I do hate how they made Raven all love struck on Beast boy in Teen titans go with no explanation on how she became more open in her feelings with him without the Tower falling apart and stuff. 
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TyLuko4life Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015
I know that couples fight.  But when they fight all the time like Beast Boy and Raven do, it's just unhealthy. People who have nothing in common and fight all the time should not be together.  Just because Beast Boy and Raven's interactions were played for laughs doesn't matter.  Nor does it matter that Teen Titans was similar to an anime style.  The fact remains that when a relationship involves serious insults/physical violence, it is abusive and should never, ever, be turned romantic.

Honestly, this behavior is why I have mixed feelings about tsundere characters in general.  Just because it happens often and is played for laughs does not make it okay or justified.  However, Raven isn't even a tsundere. 

It is disrespectful to ignore Raven's requests to leave her alone and invade her boundaries.  She needed time to herself, and everyone else understood that.  He only angers her more when he tries to help.  Funnily enough, some people like being alone sometimes!

And no, Beast Boy is not the only one who can get her to feel.  Raven's biggest smiles in the series were directed at Cyborg, not Beast Boy.

Raven cares about what Beast Boy thinks of her because they're teammates.  

And please, please do not pull the 'you're not a real couple unless you fight all the time' crap.  Again, that's super unhealthy, and real people who are in those kinds of relationships are really miserable.  Beast Boy and Raven's relationship actually reminds me of the relationship I have with my younger sister--we fight all the time and can't even stay in the same room for long because we make each other so unhappy.

And no, they don't go back to where they started because they understand each other.  That makes literally no sense.  If they understood each other, they wouldn't be constantly at each other's throats and they wouldn't have to relearn the same lesson.  They literally learned the same lesson in 'Spellbound' as they did in 'Nevermore'.  They don't understand each other at all.

And sorry, out of all the couples on Teen Titans, Beast Boy and Terra had the most amount of chemistry and shared interests.  They were compatible and understood each other.  While we're at it, let's look at Robin and Starfire's relationship.  Robin and Starfire get along well and hang out.  Beast Boy and Raven do literally none of that.

It's true that people in love don't want to change each other, but Beast Boy and Raven aren't in love.  Raven is legitimately annoyed by him (and given the way he treats her, I don't blame her), and Beast Boy needlessly insults her and ignores her right to privacy.

I definitely agree with you about Teen Titans Go, though.  Actually, I hate Teen Titans Go because it assassinates all the Teen Titans characters, and is extremely sexist and problematic.  
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firecrystal1092 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015   Writer
I see your point but, I think that what I said is right and it does help that the voice actors Terra Strong and Greg support BB/Rae. 

While it is true they are not in love in the cartoon they are or were before that stupid new 52 came out I wanted to hunt down the original comics to get into them but, all I saw was the new 52 crap where beast boy is red and Raven has a weird helmet thing? Gross. 

Anyways I guess I see your point, but I guess I just like the opposites attract thing, and I incorporate it a lot with my original girl hero stories. 

I'm not saying that Beast boy was the only one I said he was one of the ones who could get her to feel. I'm aware that Cyborg, Star fire and Robin all had made Raven happy in some form or another as well. 

As for the Nevermore deal, my point still stands about Raven's conflicting emotions and protecting her friends and Beast boy from Trigon. 

But, they had potential to be something and I promise you that if the Cartoon did continue Beastboy and Raven would have been the next couple to become cannon after Robstar and Kidflash and Jinx. 

They did fall in love when Beast boy was older and more mature like around when they were eighteen to their twenties they had differences and Raven had broken up with him to protect him but then they got back together before new 52 happened. 

Besides I do understand being alone like Raven. I was alot like Raven when I first met my boyfriend and he was always trying to tell corny jokes and trying to get me to open up as well and sometimes I still distance myself from him. Like Raven people considered me to be creepy and weird because I read books and wrote stories and did not really talk to anyone. 

Our dynamic is just like Raven and Beastboy and we have been together for almost six years now, and when I said fight all the time I do not mean ALL the time but, if a relationship has problems and even Starfire and Robin argue they do not always get along either. 

Robin and starfire are total oppsites too. Not just beastboy and Raven  I could point out a few flaws that Robin and Starfire need to work on too. 
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TyLuko4life Featured By Owner Edited Aug 24, 2015
Actually, Greg Cipes ships BBTerra, at least more than he ships BBRae.  

I don't hate opposite pairs, just BBRae.  You can ship it if you want (I'm not trying to tell you what not to ship, I'm just trying to explain why I hate BBRae).  Sometimes opposite pairs works.  The thing is, to work, they still have to be able to enjoy each other's company, get along, and do things together.  Beast Boy and Raven can't, and thus, even if they did have romantic feelings for each other in the cartoon (which they didn't), their relationship would be doomed to fail.

Honestly, when discussing the cartoon, you probably shouldn't largely base your argument or point on the comics, given how vastly different the two are.  Remember, the cartoon was only loosely based on the comics.  However, while I need to read the comics myself (though I did research them), I am aware that several people said that the BBRae relationship was poorly written (not passing any judgement since I haven't read them yet).  I am aware, however, that BBRae was a sellout pairing, meant to draw in more viewers (stemming from the large amount of fans of the two getting together on the cartoon).  BBRae didn't become canon in the comics until after the cartoon started airing.

I am aware Raven wanted to protect her friends from Trigon.  But after season four, she was cleansed of Trigon, and her behavior towards Beast Boy didn't change.  And Beast Boy still had no right to violate her privacy.

If they had ever made progress in their relationship, I'd probably agree that they had potential.  But they didn't make any progress, so I don't.  If we had a season six, Kid Flash and Jinx might have become canon, but Beast Boy and Raven wouldn't have.  The creators didn't like the pairing much.  We probably would have gotten more information on Terra.  They wouldn't just bring her back without an explanation and just leave it like that.  Also, Slade appeared in that episode, so he was definitely plotting something.

Speaking of Terra, the ridiculous, misogynistic, disturbing, and vaguely sociopathic Terra hate that usually comes from a large fraction of BBRae fans (not all of them) might have made me hate the pairing, even if Beast Boy and Raven's relationship was healthy (which it is not).  I despise character bashing, especially when it's my all-time fave getting hated on.

Another thing in regards to Beast Boy and Raven's relationship (other than the toxicity and the privacy violations) is that Beast Boy legitimately annoys Raven.  She wouldn't open up to him.  She would open up to Starfire (or any of the other Titans, really) before Beast Boy.  Of all the Titans, her best relationship is with Starfire, maybe Robin, and no, I don't actually ship RobRae (I enjoy fanfiction put up about them, but don't actually ship it).

I am well aware that Robin and Starfire are an opposites pair, and don't get along all the time.  Like I said, I do not hate opposite pairs. However, they work, because they can get along, and spend time in each others' company and enjoy it.  They have a healthy relationship.  Beast Boy and Raven don't.
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neopuff Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
"more canon than bbterra" is it fun being wrong
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, yes it is.
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BBRae4lyfe Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015
Did you know that I'm right? So YOUR the one who's wrong. 😉
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neopuff Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
keep tellin yourself that ol buddy ol pal
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BBRae4lyfe Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015
Well it is true and btw Beast Boy is gonna sing to Rae in a future episode so you can SUCK IT! XD
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neopuff Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
oh wOOWWw you got me, buddy, you got me so hard. good thing this stamp was talking about teen titans go in the first place, huh??
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NeonBlobfish Featured By Owner Edited Oct 18, 2015
A winner is you.

In all seriousness, this comment is glorious.
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300Madness Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I hate this ship, too. But BBTerra is better.
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BBRae4lyfe Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015
You are so wrong.
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NeonBlobfish Featured By Owner Edited Oct 28, 2015
:iconyodaplz: So wrong are you, but that's because you treat opinions as objective facts.
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twistedlittledoll1 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2015
I like BBStar XD
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Scout25 Featured By Owner May 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Make AntiRobRae too! (Not sure if people like RobRae)
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NeonBlobfish Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2015
Some people do. Case in point, neopuff. Me, I'm indifferent toward it.
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BBRae4lyfe Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015
RobRae is the worst ship in history along with BBTerra.
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animals10 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2015  Hobbyist
You're saying BBRae isn't cannon at all, and all the scenes mean nothing... hate to break this to you, honey, but RobRae is just the same. Their interactions are just a meaning of friendship- if you're friend was falling off a cliff, wouldn't you save her/him, too? Wouldn't you want to help that person? And RobRae is definitely not cannon, knowing that RobStar is. Robin had feelings for Starfire, and Starfire had feelings for Robin. I don't understand how you said that RobRae had a huge chunk in season 4. Yeah, I watched season 4, but Raven seemed younger there, and she didn't seem to remember anyone, even Robin, who introduced himself. When all the Titans fell unconscious, she ran to Robin because she was the only one that she remembered at the time, because he had introduced himself. I felt like those episodes introduced Robin and Raven's relationship as a sibling type. Robin helped Raven in a older brother manner, and I like to think of them like that. And I may not like BBTerra, but it is a cannon ship, and I accept that. But RobRae, where the heck did the come from? 
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BBRae4lyfe Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015
Thank you.
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neopuff Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
omgggg, nowhere did i say robrae was canon or even implied as such. your rant literally amounts to nothing.
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